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Trekkin and Birdin
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Location: West Salem WI

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

I just picked up on a cache in the "recent logs" that Spike found, and since I know the hider and honoree and it's in my hometown, I took a look. If you scroll down to the bottom, he has included a box on "logging etiquette." I thought it was kind of a cool thing.....only problem being that the mass loggers or phone loggers will never read it.

Here's a link to the listing...

http://coord.info/GC4AXBV

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hack1of2
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Good idea. Smile
 
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Lostby7
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Joined: 2005-06-07
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Location: Lake country area, WI

PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

With paperless on my GPS I maybe look at one cache page in a hundred.
 
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Trekkin and Birdin
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

He he LB7, you don't cache with Trekkin! Mine is paperless as well, but he usually wants all the details after we don't come up with the find right away. Since I hold the Oregon, I'll start scrolling through and by the time I have the info he wants, he's found the cache. I think it's his sneaky way to ensure that he finds most of them. Rolling Eyes

I do have a habit of reading a cache page before I log it, though. I'll upload the field notes, but I do like to check and see if there's anything I should consider when writing the log. I enjoy writing the logs and I understand not everyone does. For the cache I shared, I thought it made for a nice reminder; he doesn't do this with all his cache listings.

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Lostby7
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

Trekkin and Birdin wrote:
He he LB7, you don't cache with Trekkin! Mine is paperless as well, but he usually wants all the details after we don't come up with the find right away. Since I hold the Oregon, I'll start scrolling through and by the time I have the info he wants, he's found the cache. I think it's his sneaky way to ensure that he finds most of them. Rolling Eyes

I do have a habit of reading a cache page before I log it, though. I'll upload the field notes, but I do like to check and see if there's anything I should consider when writing the log. I enjoy writing the logs and I understand not everyone does. For the cache I shared, I thought it made for a nice reminder; he doesn't do this with all his cache listings.

I used to write original logs for every cache but these days I only write original logs for exceptional caches or ones that are in need of care. This is mostly because I only get out a few days and when I do I hit like 30 at a time...and of late on bike trails where there is no real expectation of original logs....
 
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Mister Greenthumb
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

We just started writing short logs in the log books again. Not as long as some of the ones we did when we started since the log books tend to be smaller now. We especially do this on older caches. We actually read the cache pages and logs more now that we both have Oregons.
 
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zuma
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for posting that. I may have to "borrow" that little box, as it says quite well what a number of people need to hear.

I might have to add something about there being a difference between a film can in a stop sign and an ammobox at a scenic location in the woods, and while a cut and paste log is fine with a film can in a stop sign, that is not true of caches that are well thought out in scenic locations.

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CodeJunkie
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Joined: 2009-07-21
Posts: 8223
Location: Berlin, WI

PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

I was going to remain seated firmly on my hands and not voice an opinion here, but unfortunately I can't.

I can appreciate the intention of including this in the cache page, but aren't we really preaching to the choir?

Some of us choose to write detailed, others don't. A stop sign hide can be quite an adventure at times (I'm speaking from experience). As a CO, I really enjoy reading more than an acronym on my caches just like most other CO's. As a CO, I've taken the wise advice of some other CO's that have gone before me and just learned to accept it for what it is. I can't force another cacher to stroke my ego, nor should I expect them to.

I learned a while ago that I can only control my own actions and lead by example. So with that in mind, I do the following:
1) Publish nearly all new caches as Premium only (it's seems to help keep the rif-raf away)
2) Publish nearly only puzzles (it's what I like)
3) Write decent logs on the caches I find to tell the story of my adventure.
4) Include a note in the log stating (photos attached) when including photos. This way the CO knows when they get the email there is more with the online log.
 
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Trekkin and Birdin
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

I still think there's some educational value in including a note like that on a cache that probably deserves a good log. Newbies will be likely to read more of the cache listing than those of us who've done this awhile. Trekkin' had an interesting experience with a new cacher in our area (now one we consider a friend) that related to acronym logs. As a result of that interaction, he writes real logs now, especially since in the meantime, he's placed some fun caches of his own and gets to see it from the owner's perspective.

As one who has long since learned to take life as it comes, I realize that such things will fall as they may. I simply pointed it out because we discuss this topic here from time to time and I thought it was a nice example of someone's effort to try and encourage better logs on a well placed cache.

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Mister Greenthumb
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Ed for the reminder to mention photos included. I post a lot of photos, but I'm lax in mentioning it in the log. As a cache owner I always open logs if it mentions photos. Except for your "puzzles only" practice I agree with your ideas. I have a hard time with solving puzzles so it's best that I don't try creating them. I'll stick with field puzzles that are informative. We wouldn't have 450+ hides right now if we didn't enjoy reading logs and we too have learned to ignore the TFTC. Now here's hoping we get some nice logs on our 20 new hides on the Bugline Trail. Even though most of them are .12 apart they are not gimmees.
 
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Todd300




Joined: 2009-06-05
Posts: 2477
Location: Menominee, MI

PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

450 hides Shocked

Dang. I think I have like 7 or 8 active hides and I know that is enough for me to maintain. I cannot fathom having to take care of 450 hides.
 
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hack1of2
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmm, maybe I should mention in my logs when I don't post a picture. It would save time. Cool

That's a good idea to mention in the log when I'm posting a picture, since I take a picture (a spoiler & a non-spoiler) of almost every one. The spoiler doesn't get posted.
 
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