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cheezehead
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Joined: 2006-07-02
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Location: Hayward, WI. USA

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ralph, you where in Hayward, and you happened to have a few coins with you. You by no means delivered any ordered coins to Hayward. You were on your time. Not acting on behalf the the WGA or the WGA BOD. You showed up late, cooked your lunch, sold coin and left early. No one asked you to bring any coins to sell in Hayward. So please stop acting like you did a great service to anyone by delivering a coin to Hayward.
And no attacks on you. Just stating what you have said in the past. You have stated that you are unwilling to drive 2hrs north to help set up an event and I could go on but I wont.

My original statement was a reply stating that going to an event to pick up a coin is not an equal opportunity. Using the same argument if the Campout were to be held in Copper Falls or Patterson Park. How may would show of from the SE part of the state to pick up a coin?

So to help ALL those people, who can not attend the camp out or the Bash, do a pre-sale to determine how much of an interest there is. then figure out the average shipping cost and then add a couple dollars for the handling fee and give that to whoever sends the coins out so they get something for their time. They should not have to do it for free and there is no extra cost to the WGA Spending $15-$20 for S&H is a heck of a lot cheaper that the $100's in fuel costs.
 
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BigJim60
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

thepharmgirl wrote:
I would think that the decision to provide online sales would depend, in part, whether a board member is willing to take charge and volunteer a large amount of personal time in setting it up, obtaining the necessary supplies, and then organizing and mailing out the orders.


I don't see why it has to be a board member that does this. Pat has already volunteered. I would be happy to do some of the shipping, or even meet with Pat somewhere to work on it together. Once June 2 hits, I have lots of free time until September.

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Northwoods Tom
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

cheezehead points out feelings some "Up North" WGA members may have. We belong to the association and would like to be part of many of it's benefits. Members need to pick and choose what we can attend and participate in.

Making it easier for members who live "out of the way" is only going to strengthen the WGA.

I read this discussion and wonder why the response can't be "we can do that" or "we can try that again" and "then" talk about snags that can be fixed.
 
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Team Black-Cat
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

sandlanders wrote:
I just meant sell online before selling at any event.

Is there a reason for that? I'm not trying to be snarky, but the first coins out of the box are the same as the last ones.

If the board decides to have an online sale, which is likely, the soonest we could start it is when the artwork is finalized. That is when the coins will be ordered. If our schedule holds, the coins will arrive shortly before the WB event. The online sale will most likely still be going on.
We MIGHT be able to get the online sale finished and the coins shipped before the WB event, but if anyone is going to hold my feet to the fire to make that happen then I won't be helping out in the future.

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sandlanders
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Team Black-Cat wrote:
sandlanders wrote:
I just meant sell online before selling at any event.

Is there a reason for that? I'm not trying to be snarky, but the first coins out of the box are the same as the last ones.

Just so that there are still coins left in the box after an event so that people can still order them online. I am talking about the initial ordering chance, not an ongoing sale.

OK. The WGA orders 500 coins. No individual has ordered any of them yet online. How many do you take to sell at the event (WB for this year, it appears) and how many do you hold back for those who order online?

As I have said previously, not being on the BOD, nor being a "coiner", I have little knowledge of what all is involved in coin sales and the timeline of making a coin. I just know that I did not like how things were done with last year's coin. There was not an option to order coins and have them mailed to you. It was either pick up your order at the event (the fall picnic last year) or make arrangements to have someone do that for you.

That is what I am concerned with. If the mass mailing is a lot of work, that is what I am volunteering to help with.
 
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rtrezrsnhvn
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

BigJim60 wrote:
thepharmgirl wrote:
I would think that the decision to provide online sales would depend, in part, whether a board member is willing to take charge and volunteer a large amount of personal time in setting it up, obtaining the necessary supplies, and then organizing and mailing out the orders.


I don't see why it has to be a board member that does this. Pat has already volunteered. I would be happy to do some of the shipping, or even meet with Pat somewhere to work on it together. Once June 2 hits, I have lots of free time until September.



I am available to help too (especially with pre-shipping work). My kiddos would thoroughly enjoy a chance to hang out with Mr. & Mrs. S (and RT11 is old enough to help). If the timing falls the week before the CacheBash, we are out of pocket, but I think there is a ton of stuff that can be done ahead of time from an administrative standpoint.

I think it would be a good idea to develop a standardized/documented process so this can be done in the future by anyone that comes forth.

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labrat_wr
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Joined: 2007-05-19
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

while I don't believe that the WGA has ever run out of a coin in the year it was minted, I would suspect that if there was a large enough demand and we would somehow sell out, there would always be an option of a second run of the coin.

I would also suspect that, while we would like to sell as many as possible at the WBCB, we would hold 30-40% of the coins (purely an estimate) for the online sales.

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Team Black-Cat
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

sandlanders wrote:
Just so that there are still coins left in the box after an event so that people can still order them online. I am talking about the initial ordering chance, not an ongoing sale.

OK. The WGA orders 500 coins. No individual has ordered any of them yet online. How many do you take to sell at the event (WB for this year, it appears) and how many do you hold back for those who order online?

As I have said previously, not being on the BOD, nor being a "coiner", I have little knowledge of what all is involved in coin sales and the timeline of making a coin. I just know that I did not like how things were done with last year's coin. There was not an option to order coins and have them mailed to you. It was either pick up your order at the event (the fall picnic last year) or make arrangements to have someone do that for you.

That is what I am concerned with. If the mass mailing is a lot of work, that is what I am volunteering to help with.


How many coins to order is always a judgment call. There is no way to accuratly estimate what sales will be. All I can say is that there will be enough left after the WB event to cover any online sales, even if we need to re-order.

I agree that not having an online sale for the last coin was not a shining moment for the WGA. I feel personally responsible for that downfall, even though it wasn't up to only me to initiate the process. I can't appologize for the entire BOD, but I do appologize on my own behalf.

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LDove
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Joined: 2006-01-11
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I would be willing to help. I would be happy to help mail these out after school is out for me on June 13th. Just send me the stuff and I will sit with the remote and watch TV and address envelops and stick stamps. I'm not kidding. I really don't mind. I believe I could even recruit my camohat geocaching ladies group to help me - it would be a fun activity.

Was there a winning coin design picked yet? Did I miss it somewhere?

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JimandLinda
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Joined: 2008-08-14
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Location: Rosendale WI

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Still waiting on the artwork modifications by the vendor on our 3 finalists. That will determine our 2012 coin, once the Committee reviews them.

Nothing is final yet!

And thanks for speaking up on helping out with shipping! We'll let you know! Smile
 
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hotdogs_off_trail
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Joined: 2002-02-20
Posts: 754
Location: North Freedom, Wi. USA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

LDove wrote:
I would be willing to help. I would be happy to help mail these out after school is out for me on June 13th. Just send me the stuff and I will sit with the remote and watch TV and address envelops and stick stamps.


We had a mailing party one year, and had about10 people do an assembly line thing. It went pretty well. Could be done again...just need a place for everyone to meet and work.
 
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Northwoods Tom
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Joined: 2010-12-03
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Location: Washington Island

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know why I didn't suggest this before, but it just occurred.

I travel a triangle from Northeast Wisconsin (home) thru Wausau (Blackcat) to Eau Claire (My sister and Zuma) thru out the summer (Mid June thru Mid August). And the top of the triangle is Price county where the cottage is (Cheezehead and depending on the route Sweetlife).

Not uncommon to make a half dozen trips. If I can be of assistance in delivery (not quite as fast as the Pony Express), keep me in mind. I'm traveling the route anyway.
 
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guidetoo
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Joined: 2008-03-13
Posts: 78

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

I wonder if the board would ask how many member would be willing to help make this project a sucess and make it happen. I bet lots all one would need to do is give some guide lines let it happen.
 
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StarWarsGuy
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Joined: 2006-07-14
Posts: 56
Location: Racine Wi

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

any word on the winning design yet?
 
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JimandLinda
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

We have 3 Finalists. We have submitted them for artwork and quotes, to make a final selection.

It would be nice and easy to pick one and fly with it, but it doesn't work that way.
 
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